Monday, September 12, 2005

The Joy of Specs

So it was my plan not to post while I was traveling but the Infinite Monkey's in-laws made the mistake of leaving their computer out in plain sight while taking my child for a walk in the park. Some of you may wonder what kind of father chooses to hunch over a keyboard instead of playing with his son in the park. To that I can only say this: the crappy kind.

I'm in Chicago and while I wish I was channelling my inner Mamet I'm unfortunately channelling myself from ten years ago when I sold the (set in Washington) script DEAD DROP which became the (set in Chicago) movie CHAIN REACTION. I spent a grand total of three hours on the Chain Reaction set--I happened to be in Chicago for a wedding---and was invited to the set by the producer. It was my first movie set and I can honestly say I saw things that blew my mind. Namely, when introduced to Keanu Reeves, I saw him unhinge his right hip from his pelvis so he could actually turn his back on me and walk away while the rest of him was still walking towards me to shake my hand.

But this is not that story. This is about spec scripts. Many of you (okay, two) asked about spec scripts. And why wouldn't you? The big spec script sale is the Moby Dick for all the Monkey-Ahabs sailing alone on their little one man schooners in the Sea of Coffee Shops Around America. It's a Holy Grail--mythologized in screenwriting books and blogs and seminars everywhere...But it's also A Big Metal Cup--a real world way to get noticed, get an agent, and get on with your career.

Notice I didn't say "Get paid." Because most of the time you write a spec script you're not going to get paid. Not anymore. The market isn't the way it was back when I was just an Infinite Monkey Baby and Joe Eszterhas was getting paid 3.5 million for an outline written on the back of a napkin at the Polo Lounge. Come to think of it, back then back when wasn't even back when.

But this isn't a career advice column and I've got no insight beyond what everybody knows. The spec market's a bitch and nobody should write a script expecting to sell it. Everybody should write a script expecting to sit alone in a dark room and wonder whether anybody will ever truly give a fuck about them and what they have to say.

And again, like I've said before...it doesn't even matter if anyone gives a fuck about you. It does matter if they give a fuck about what you have to say. But that assumes facts not in evidence. That assumes you have something to say. That you have a voice. That you have an original story to tell. That you have the talent to tell it well. Now of course once you become a working screenwriter you'll be asked to stop all that bullshit. But for now you better put on your Scrappy Cap and find yourself a motherfucking Wangdoodle.

But this is a story about one spec script.

And one actress.

Ten years ago I worked as a reader for New Line Cinema making fifty bucks a script doing coverage. I read ten scripts a week and in the year I did the job I read two scripts that later became movies. I passed on both. One was Red Rock West and who the hell knew John Dahl was that cool and the other was Rudy and I fucking HATE Notre Dame. I passed on Rudy knowing it was a movie and knowing someone was going to make it. But I think Lou Holtz was coaching the Irish back then and damned if I was gonna help that self-righteous old woman recruit one more linebacker. It's people like me who read your work.

So I'm reading forty scripts a month for a couple grand and not making much of a dent in my student loans to SuperMax. Do the math and that's almost five hundred scripts in a one year period and TWO became movies. I cannot remember recommending a script. Ever.

This was the boom time.

And into this mine of fool's gold I carried my own pick and helmet. A line producer I knew wanted me to take an old script he wrote with a stuntman friend of his and rewrite it. The script was eighty pages long with a forty page first act, a ten page second act, and (only by process of elimination) a thirty page final act. It was a mess and certainly called into question whether simply using the correct formatting gives you the right to call something a script.

Line Producer was a sweetheart and offered me a deal: if I'd rewrite the script for a month he'd pay me the same amount I would earn for a month of New Line pay. If we sold the script we'd share a story credit and split the sale price 75/25 with him attached to produce. Now as many of you know I had previously suffered from what we like to call inadequate legal counsel by relying on a lawyer friend of my father's whose only connection to the field of entertainment law was driving past CAA on his way to a dope deal.

(Libel note: This may not be true. It may have been William Morris.)

So this time I called a DIFFERENT friend of my father's who actually worked in the entertainment business. Granted, he was a performer in the blossoming world of cable variety shows.

ME: So whattya think Mr. Cable Variety Show Performer...Should I do the deal?
CABLE VARIETY SHOW PERFORMER: Sure. You'll never sell the script anyway so who cares.
ME: Thank you for your help sir!

Thus buoyed by this enthusiastic endorsement I agreed to the deal (only after exaggerating my New Line pay an extra five hundred bucks). Twenty-five hundred dollars. Half when I started. Half when I finished.

One year later I'd been paid $1250 dollars and written TWENTY-TWO DRAFTS. And although I was living off the $20,000 the Dumb Fucking Lesbian had gotten me for the serial killer rewrite, this new exercise in white slavery was starting to put a crimp in my ultimate plan to become richer than my parents.

Now maybe twenty-two drafts over a year for an average of about fifty bucks per draft seems a little perverse. After all, I was previously making the same amount reading a script as I was currently being paid to write one. But I was stuck in a classic if/then expectation loop and couldn't escape. And these weren't small little changes I was making. To wit:

Six months and a dozen drafts earlier (before the DFL), a writer friend of mine had arranged for his agent to slip the script to a Fox executive. Everyone got all hopped up smoking the spec crack and the executive took it home to read it over the weekend. I counted the hours. When I reached FIVE HUNDRED AND FOUR I called the producer. No answer. I called my friend's agent. No answer. Around FIVE HUNDRED THIRTEEN I bellied up to the bar and called the executive, herself.

ME: Uh, Hi. This is Josh Friedman. I wrote...that script you were reading.
EXECUTIVE: Oh yeah, Josh Friedman. That script.
ME: I was kinda wondering. What happened with that script?
EXECUTIVE: What happened?
ME: Yep.
EXECUTIVE: I passed.
ME: You did?
EXECUTIVE: Two weeks ago. No one told you?
ME: Well of course...Everyone told me. I just wanted to hear it from you personally because rejection makes me hard.

God it would've been so cool if I'd have said that. Actually I said:

ME: No.

And then she told me something that very few executives in the ten years since have told me: the truth.

EXECUTIVE: Honestly, Josh. You've taken one of the most commercial premises for a movie and rendered it in one of the most uncommercial ways I could imagine.

She then spent half an hour listing the various screenwriting sins she believed I'd committed. And she was kinda right.

The next day I called Line Producer and told him A) he was a serious dickhead for not calling me after Fox passed and B) I was cutting sixty pages out of the script and starting over.

So after a year and twenty-two drafts it's more hobby than spec script but I've stuck with it. There's a poker term called "pot committed" and it happens when there's already so much money in the pot that it makes mathematical sense for you to call a final bet even if you're an underdog. I'd like to think this is where I was at.

Of course there's also a poker term called "loser."

Now the other part of the story started a couple months earlier when I began dating a woman who will for the sake of this blog and this blog only be referred to as THE ACTRESS. She is no longer an actress and it can be debated whether she truly ever was one. Much like my line producer's script, her acting talents significantly called into question how broadly we want to define the term "ACTRESS." Unfortunately for those poor souls who run across actresses in their daily lives, there is no practical difference between working actress, out of work actress, wanna-be actress, bad actress, good actress, used-to-be-good-but-now-an-infomercial actress, or star. They're all crazy.

Here's the type I was dating: the My Father is a Huge Director Who Puts Me in his Movies and got Me an Agent and Pays for My Acting Classes ACTRESS. Her career consisted of five cameos in her father's movies with enough lines to get her SAG health insurance. She was very sweet and quite smart and had her father not been a big director I'm sure she would've been successful working out in the real world doing something productive that didn't involve short, strained conversations with her agent, making me run lines with her for a part as OLDER SISTER #2, and staring at her ass in a mirror.

In the days preceding the day of my big spec launch things had gotten a little dicey between ACTRESS and myself. She had a touch of Social Dyslexia and whenever we were in groups larger than two she became convinced I was an absolute stranger and spent the evening flirting with the male whose body language most resembled her father's withheld approval.

But I knew if I could isolate her in a male-deprivation tank she'd probably be on her best behavior. I invited her to sit by the phone with me while my spec made the rounds. I was not a very bright boy.

Now even though back then wasn't really back when back then, it was still a time in the spec market when you'd send your script out in the morning and by lunch you'd have a pretty good idea if you were gonna be invited to the screenwriter poker game at Dominick's next week.

So the Dumb Fucking Lesbian's amped and even though Line Producer's ICM agent is taking the lead it's a group effort and she's in serious capital letter mode.

"OH MY GOD JOSH YOUR SPEC IS ON ITS WAY BY THIS AFTERNOON YOUR WHOLE LIFE COULD CHANGE ISN'T THAT AN AMAZING CONCEPT SERIOUSLY HOW ARE YOU GONNA SPEND YOUR DAY WAITING FOR MY CALLS BY THE PHONE?"

ME: Actress is bringing over bagels and we're gonna read the New York Times together on the couch.
DFL: Really. I thought the two of you were done.
ME: I think things are gonna work.
DFL: Are you still subverting her by suggesting bad line readings when the two of you rehearse?
ME: I did that one time and she deserved it.
DFL: I never said she didn't.

But everyone's gotta be torched by lightning once before they'll stop walking rainy golf courses during thunderstorms wearing tap shoes and waving a three-iron over their head. Actress showed up and she'd even brought lox and it did cross my mind that maybe this was the woman for me and today was going to be the best day of my life. I couldn't even hear my tap shoes clicking as I walked.

Two hours later the first call came in. Junior studio executives had read it and the response was great. Bosses were reading it over lunch and I didn't need the DFL to tell me that if you can get an upper-level studio executive to read your script between 12:30 and 2:30 you're doing something right.

By the end of lunch the first offers starting coming in. I have to be honest and tell you I don't remember what the numbers started at or how quickly they went up but the DFL started calling me every half-hour with updates. I'd just hung up with the DFL for the seventh time and was wondering how the AMG class Mercedes compared with the new BMW M3 when suddenly the rain started falling. Hard.

ME: (humming a little tune) I'm gonna be rich rich rich, richer than Dad...
ACTRESS: Josh. We need to talk.
ME: Rich rich rich hm? What? Talk?
ACTRESS: I don't think I can do this anymore.
ME: Are we out of lox?
ACTRESS: You're a great guy. I like you a lot...It's just...I can't...do this. Us. Anymore.
ME: But...

RING. RING.

DFL: OH MY GOD JOSH FOX HAS JUST GONE UP ANOTHER FIFTY AND I THINK SONY'S CALLING--
ME: I'll call you right back.

ME AGAIN: Actress...Sit down. Think this through...Things are going great here...We can work it out...I'm gonna be rich and you can stop worrying I'm dating you for your dad's money...
ACTRESS: I know this is your big day but--

RING. RING.

ME: Hold that horribly wounding thought...Hello? Where's it at now?

By the end of business two things were clear: a) I was going to sell my script for a lot of money and b) to commermorate the day this crazy bitch was dumping my ass.

The next morning Dead Drop sold to the same executive at Fox who had passed on it six months earlier. I don't like to talk actual dollars but because the numbers were public knowledge and because I think it's instructive I'll break the whole thing down for you.

Amount of money paid to me by Line Producer three days before spec went out: $1250
Amount of money script sold for according to Variety: $1.2 million
Amount of money an executive told me I missed out on by not selling to his studio because they weren't willing to pay as much in "producer's fees": $50,000
Amount of money out of the $1.2 million that Line Producer's agent negotiated as "producer's fees": $600,000.
Amount of the remaining $600,000 also taken by Line Producer due to 75/25 split: $150,000
Amount taken by the DFL and Josh's brand new professional real lawyer: $67,500
Amount left for Josh before taxes: 382,500
Amount left for Josh after taxes: 200,000
Amount of Josh's SuperMax loans: $25,000
Amount of a BMW M3: $60,000
Amount I missed out on by not rewriting the script one year later: $750,000

And in case you're wondering, here's the Variety headline the day my sale made the trades:
'FOREPLAY' FOR PAY: ESZTERHAS' SCRIPT TO SAVOY FOR $3.5 MILLION

It was a fucking boom time.

And as far as the Actress is concerned...well, there's a happy ending there. I got a phone call from her the day my sale was in the paper. This is exactly what happened:

ACTRESS: Hi, it's me. Actress.
ME: Hi.
ACTRESS: Look...I don't know how to say this but...did you shellack your Variety article to my apartment door?
ME: What?
ACTRESS: Just tell me. Did you or did you not polyurethene your Variety article to my apartment door?
ME: I did not.
ACTRESS: Well I'm a little freaked out. Do your friends know where I live? Did you tell them?
ME: I have nothing to do with it. I swear to God.
ACTRESS: All right. Gotta go...Oh yeah, by the way...I've got an audition coming up...I thought maybe you'd help me run lines...You know, just as friends.
ME: My pleasure. As friends.
ACTRESS: Great. I'll call ya...

Needless to say she didn't get that job. Perhaps it had something to do with her line readings...

But she did find out who pasted my Variety article on her apartment door:

Her father.

Now that's some parenting I can get behind.

76 Comments:

Blogger TC said...

Great story! Hopelessly, almost suicidally depressing for us less talented folks...but great story!

I'm beginning to think that if my writer isn't personally pissed off at me for ruining his script, I'm doing something wrong.

On the other hand, I don't think I'll ever have the chance to test that theory as I've never worked with a writer that wasn't convinced I'd ruined his script.

But then again, I'm nothing. I need to remember that, because nobody else tells me.

9/13/2005 10:06 PM  
Blogger Luke said...

HAHAHAHA!

Go Actress Dad, go!

EvilLuke

9/13/2005 10:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a excellent blog. Keep it going. Here's the resolve a lot of people are searching for; how to buy & sell everything, like music on interest free credit; pay whenever you want.

9/13/2005 10:46 PM  
Blogger Julie Goes To Hollywood said...

For awhile I was thinking Sofia Coppola, then I moved onto Angelica Huston, but that didn't work at all. So now I'm deducing little Jessica Capshaw, who's technically not Spielberg's daughter but may well inspire some paternal polyurethaning around town. Actually, she's still "acting," and playing a former fatty on TV this fall to boot, which will require some spurned boyfriend-coached bad line readings each and every week. Never mind.

9/13/2005 11:04 PM  
Anonymous SirMrVanWeySir said...

Best.
Post.
Ever.

Had my first spec go out wide last year. Spent a week waiting by the phone, playing World of Warcraft while the reps whispered sweet nothings in my ear and the world spun sideways.

9/13/2005 11:28 PM  
Blogger Lee-Roy said...

Excellent, excellent blog, Josh. Hilarious and insightful. I look forward to every post.

9/14/2005 1:11 AM  
Blogger Tommy Naccarato said...

Hilarious Josh1 I'm laughing my ass off all by myself in condo. I'm sure the cats (I hate cats) think its equally bizarre that I'm doing so.

DO NOT STOP!

9/14/2005 1:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this blog is CRACK!

9/14/2005 2:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

josh = fucking great.

read your earlier post, about turning down the $750K rewrite... how how how did you do that? was the new script so bad it would've been too awful, or were you worried it would brand you as a hack, or ?

that you could turn down that sort of cash when you were still relatively poor (and unemployed, yes?) amazes me.

9/14/2005 3:11 AM  
Anonymous Joshua James said...

Josh dude - you really oughta consider turning these adventures into a book, and I don't say that lightly (there are too many writers writing unnecessary books, though not as many as write screenplays, it's true)

I wish that there was another route into the biz other than the spec roulette wheel, but what's a monkey to do?

By the way, you never mentioned WHY you passed on Red Rock West?

9/14/2005 5:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fawning comment followed by inane question, Josh... and something about crack?

Good story though :)

9/14/2005 5:28 AM  
Anonymous BenDavid said...

In the same way Rescue Me makes Ladder 49 look like The Birdcage, this blog makes the other screenwriter blogs irrelevant. (Except John Rogers)

9/14/2005 6:05 AM  
Blogger William said...

Look on Josh's face after he heard the story about the Actress' father pasting the Variety article on her door...priceless!

Oh yeah, they're all crazy...

9/14/2005 6:54 AM  
Anonymous Greg said...

I know we're all supposed to laugh at these comedy antics--and we do--but I can't help but be touched that DFL got a nice chunk of change out of the script, because I like her and her DFL ways.

9/14/2005 7:01 AM  
Anonymous Hudson said...

I'd be interested to know what the "screenwriting sins" were that the executive pointed out to you.

9/14/2005 8:00 AM  
Anonymous Richard Clement Haber said...

Dumb Fucking Great Post!
Forget about screenwriting, keep posting keep posting keep posting and don't leave us alone!

And by the way, I'm with Hudson: what were the "sins" on your script?

9/14/2005 9:21 AM  
Blogger Scoopy said...

Hmmm... for some reason I feel like suggesting Alison Eastwood, even though that's a retarded guess. I don't see Clint running around fixing taunting messages to his daughter's door.

Great post, as always. Unnervingly great. You should indeed publish a scathingly entertaining novel and make them all kiss your ass to adapt it.

9/14/2005 10:46 AM  
Blogger Scott the Reader said...

I'm thinking maybe it's Michael Bay's daughter Mitzi (who played one of the Japanese kamikazes in Pearl Harbor).

But then I remember that Josh used to date Soon Yi, before she MARRIED her dad. So that's a possibility too.

9/14/2005 11:13 AM  
Anonymous Juancho said...

I remember reading how Damon and Affleck got 600k for GOOD WILL HUNTING. After 10% to their agents, then taxes, they each had about 130k left. They then went out and bought identical Jeeps.
Awww, isn't that cute?
-----

Personally, I had a similar experience when running into an ex-girlfriend at a party this weekend. (With no advance warning that she was invited- Thanks Mike, I owe you a solid.)

She was upset that every guy she meets just wants sex. Except me. I was different.

Not true, I said, but I did just want a relationship. (Also, every guy wants sex.)

This from the same girl who used to blog about how clingy I was and that it was SUCH a hassle to go out with me once a week.

9/14/2005 11:40 AM  
Blogger Jason Sanders said...

Seriously, an amazing post.

Thanks for sharing these wacky (?) experiences and keep up the great work!

9/14/2005 11:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John Dahl is awesome! I'm with Joshua, why did you pass on Red Rock West?

Great post, by the way! Keep 'em coming!

Justin

9/14/2005 11:58 AM  
Anonymous HP Hummergraft said...

Josh. Don't turn this blog into a book. It's unfair to those of us who write books. We need *less* talented people writing books, not more. Less. We welcome Stephen J Cannell to our world. Even Bochco. We do not welcome you.

9/14/2005 12:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Unfortunately for those poor souls who run across actresses in their daily lives, there is no practical difference between working actress, out of work actress, wanna-be actress, bad actress, good actress, used-to-be-good-but-now-an-infomercial actress, or star. They're all crazy."

OH DEAR GOD YES!

9/14/2005 1:00 PM  
Blogger Scoopy said...

re: Red Rock West & hating scripts that turn into good or at least successful movies -- I just remembered that I read THE MACHINIST and hated it.

You know what? I still hate that script. I read it as a sample, so it wasn't a matter of recommending it or not, but if it had been, I never would have seen a Brad Anderson film in it.

And yes, I feel like an ass about it.

9/14/2005 1:02 PM  
Blogger scott said...

Hey there-

Can you elaborate on: "She then spent half an hour listing the various screenwriting sins she believed I'd committed. And she was kinda right".

Thanks

9/14/2005 1:19 PM  
Blogger josh friedman said...

The sins I refer to are actually very specific to the script at the time. Basically, she gave me notes. They didn't fall under any larger "Thou Shalt Not" rubric. But her larger point was the most important: I had taken a commercial idea and gone all Raymond Carver on its ass. Didn't fly then, won't fly now.

9/14/2005 1:55 PM  
Blogger Curious Jane said...

I like The Actress' father & his shellac. I've never heard of a better way to say "dumbass".

9/14/2005 1:58 PM  
Blogger Should I Blog This? said...

This story is a script in and of itself. What a great story with the perfect "you dumb, crazy bitch" ending.

9/14/2005 4:24 PM  
Blogger Rogers said...

Man, I missed out on the good anecdotes by getting married before I started screenwriting. Bastard.

9/14/2005 6:01 PM  
Anonymous Leif Smart said...

Any chance on a blog regarding what the spec script situation is like now?

9/14/2005 6:31 PM  
Blogger skip90291 said...

War of the Worlds, huh? Well...this article confirms it for me. You're a very good writer.

9/14/2005 9:16 PM  
Blogger Fat Chance said...

No, not a book, Josh. Your story has to be told in a script and then on to the big screen. I see Nicholas Cage in the starring role. He's just neurotic... I mean, sensitive enough... to play this part.

9/14/2005 9:38 PM  
Blogger Mr. Matos said...

You rock motherfucker.

9/14/2005 10:52 PM  
Blogger Phoenix said...

So I ask this of everyone to whom it applies, and now I ask you Josh: How did you get your position as a reader? I've just moved to SoCal and am desperately seeking an in to the business.

I'd compliment you on how awesome this blog is, but you're quite overflowing as it is.

9/15/2005 1:22 AM  
Blogger josh friedman said...

If memory serves I had a friend from film school who had a reader job at New Line. I'd been reading scripts FOR FREE for a production company previously. (I think a cousin of mine got me the free job.) I did some sample coverage for NL and got the job.

9/15/2005 8:01 AM  
Blogger skip90291 said...

I found being a reader a little bit soul destroying. For one thing, I worried that bad writing would infect me. I'm a bit of a sponge--I soak up the voices and characters and emotions of the people around me. And so I was also afraid I'd soak up the crappy dialogue and senseless plotting of these scripts. (I know--reading bad scripts is supposed to make you a better writer...I'm just not so sure.) Furthermore (why don't I get my own damn blog) I found the mountain of scripts unbearably discouraging. Because they were so bad, and yet these people had so much will to write them anyway, oblivious to the poor quality, and it thoroughly convinced me I was just as deluded about my own abilities. To this day, despite being paid and produced, I have no idea just how good I am at it at all.

9/15/2005 11:36 AM  
Anonymous Richard Clement Haber said...

Josh,
It must be easy now that your career is up over the clouds to look back and laugh. But, by then, how was it really? Did you never question your own talent or considered another career? Has you never felt you're just wasting your time with something that might never pay off? What kept pushing you forward? Your instinct, your youth, your parents, DFL, NFL, NBA?

9/15/2005 11:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quick question, speaking of John Dahl in the article, does the blog, "The List Seduction" have any reference to John Dahl's movie, "The Last Seduction?"

Just curious.

9/15/2005 8:38 PM  
Anonymous Melvin said...

Ya think?

9/16/2005 12:31 AM  
Blogger Christopher Coulter said...

A Mount Everest stack of scripts of which only 2 became movies? Depressing. Ack. Realizations like that can stop a beating heart; reduces it to a numbers game, a lottery of sorts. Your script in the hands of a film school grad, entrapped in a roller-coaster turmoil love-life ride, all this impacting JUST when he decides to read your script. Or he may, say, hate Notre Dame. ;)

But never recommended ANYTHING? Out of 500, would think could manage find at least a handful, just call them 'finalists'. If a reader reads, but yet doesn't recommend, of what value is he anyways? ;)

But then on the flipside, quite positive, in the proverbial Tony Gayton way, that the dead-beaten down, forever-rewritten script, long past it's Milk Expiration Date, might yet still impact wide. Has that Hughes-era soundtrack backbeat about it -- life is horrible, life kicks you in the teeth, but still a faint candle-flicker of hope.

As far as "screenwriters lives", I just can't see that as a Silver Screen hit, best left to the literary, unless you work in a wicked hook, like script'er morphing into Agent, just no more Florida big-game orchid hunting, please. ;)

9/16/2005 4:31 AM  
Anonymous Derek Haas said...

When I was a reader in Chatsworth, the only two scripts I recommended were ARMAGETTIN' IT ON and THROBBIN' HOOD: PRINCE OF BEAVES. I waded through months and months of scripts to get to those two gems... and both went into production the very next week! After the grueling four-day shoot, I am proud to say that both movies did exceptionally well with their DVD releases.

9/16/2005 9:30 AM  
Anonymous Garbo said...

You should be writing comedy. My new favorite blog. 0 for 500. So utterly true.

9/16/2005 11:43 AM  
Blogger fivegoodhours said...

actress gf -- Tracy Reiner? btw, you're more arresting than a lemon squeeze on a paper cut. keep it up

9/16/2005 12:36 PM  
Blogger RogerRmjet said...

ARMAGETTIN' IT ON and THROBBIN' HOOD: PRINCE OF BEAVES

There is a true art to porn titles that take off on mainstream titles.

9/16/2005 1:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fight on! (What would the same script sell for today on the spec market?)

Brian

broncostrojans@yahoo.com

9/16/2005 4:19 PM  
Blogger josh friedman said...

A CORRECTION:
And I don't know if this makes me look better or worse...But I actually passed on The Last Seduction, not Red Rock West.

9/16/2005 6:28 PM  
Blogger Scott the Reader said...

Back when it was called "Buffalo Girls"?

9/16/2005 6:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I work in Hollywood and love these stories.... you are my hero...

9/16/2005 8:52 PM  
Blogger Christopher Coulter said...

Chatsworth readers...hahha. Dang. Classic. Actually THAT could be a play, more the productional-hack insider take, or a wantabe tag-along, aka, Cameron Croweishtic. As contrasted from the Paul Thomas Anderson grand philosophical 'excess to moderational redemption' generational-span leap. Work in some hooks and themes, and yeah, a fade in...

Last Seduction? Oh my, oh my. DGA, BAFTA, Edgar, NBR, NYFCC and more. And a reader passed? Heh. Hope after all. :) And look at Steve now, Domino'ing with Tony Scott and aiming up Killshots with Madden. But Dahl's 'Great Raid' I thought was great too, critics panned for being too rah rah, but I thought it was measured and had just the right tempo, one of those slow word of mouth leakers, the DVD will uptick, I predict.

9/16/2005 11:00 PM  
Anonymous Circling the Liquor Store said...

I find my lack of pants disturbing.

9/17/2005 12:12 AM  
Blogger josh friedman said...

Yes, back when it was Buffalo Girls...and I have quite a story related to the Great Raid, actually. It has to do with a script I wrote called Ghost Soldiers...

9/17/2005 8:18 AM  
Blogger Christopher Coulter said...

Oh oh, you did a Hampton Sides adapt? Where did Bernard and Miro fit in? Just mixing in Breuer? I have no hint on the backstory (or even story itself) here. Time for another post? :)

Off topic: but what a great movie weekend Lord of War, An Unfinished Life, Corpse Bride, Thumbsucker, Just like Heaven (had a charm), Cry Wolf and Venom well...but you knew that going in. And around 5-6 limiteds I like to see, like 'Chain' and Julian Fellowes' 'Separate Lies', but not playing here.

9/17/2005 7:06 PM  
Blogger Tommy Naccarato said...

Josh,
I find your lack of producing more blog entries disturbing.....

Get with it. We're dying for the next one! After all, it's been a week!

Tell Speilberg he is just going to have to wait, you've got an important blog entry you have to finish!

9/19/2005 1:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think something's happened to Josh. We haven't heard from him in about a week. Maybe it's like those Stephen King stories where the writer's alter ego comes after him.

Josh, write something and let us know you're okay.

9/19/2005 1:57 PM  
Anonymous Bob at the Bar and Grill said...

We heard from him 4 posts ago, dumbass.

He's not dead. He's just lazy.

9/19/2005 3:00 PM  
Anonymous Nimron said...

"...[H]er larger point was the most important: I had taken a commercial idea and gone all Raymond Carver on its ass. Didn't fly then, won't fly now. "

Josh, sorry to be so dense, but can you or someone else tell me what this means? Why would Raymond Carver be a bad thing? Or is this Hollywood shorthand for removing all blockbuster potential by taking a high concept idea and turning it into a character driven story?

9/19/2005 11:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would put real money on "actress" being Amy Brooks, daughter of James L. Brooks.

Check out the imdb and tell me this doesn't match the description:
http://imdb.com/name/nm0111857/

M.E.

9/21/2005 11:46 AM  
Blogger Christopher Coulter said...

Relooked into the history, basically looks like Miramax got there first. Still C/W Productions and DW/Universal with a Spielberg-Cruise marquee would seem to have made it more of a potential hit, more a Saving Private Ryanish heroic theme. Just file under too close together? Spielberg doing 'Catch Me' and lost ground time? Maybe shift it to the fight for the Philippines, the Bataan Death March, over the Henry Mucci commanding army approach? Or all but forever DOA?

That's gotta hurt tho, two armies fighting battles over the same story territory. Actually that itself has a theme, screenwriter stuck in the middle of a war, recruited for what seems the winning team, only ends up not.

9/26/2005 6:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Josh - I think i played poker with you a couple times at Guy's. Then you drifted off.
the rumour was you had a problem with it...can you still play poker?

10/04/2005 9:28 PM  
Blogger josh friedman said...

Depends...I don't play, shall we say, "competitively" anymore. But a nice friendly home game...Well, maybe.

10/04/2005 10:20 PM  
Blogger Alex said...

*shrieks with laughter*

Go Actress's Dad! Oh, that's just awesome. *big grin* Nice to see she got a 'slap-you-round-the-head-with-a-reality-check' moment. :)

10/15/2005 12:51 AM  
Blogger Layne said...

Haha. Funny comment about the Paramount parking lot. I work there, and when MI:3 was filming the lot was an absolute mess. Made driving the golf cart around that much more fun.

We also had these Stuntman awards about a month ago. An even bigger mess.

Great blog, man

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